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Major Marcel
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: So - What We Gonna Do??? Reply with quote

I've been visiting these sites for years, I've read this and that about the bilderbergers, the masons, Majestic 12 and god knows, too many to list really.

What should we do to stop them?

One thing is clear, talking/discussing on sites like these are not doing anything to stop them, or even cause them mild discomfort. They carry on regardless.

I think we will have to actually wrestle the truth from them cos they are certasinly not gonna suddenly have a change of heart, and morals, and hand over our destiny on a plate, not least because if the truth, whatever that may be, comes out then these peoples full crimes will come to light and they would be hanging from the nearest tree!

Them voluntarily coming out with anything is a bit like the idea of turkeys voting for christmas!

So what are we to do? Continue to blow hot air on forums about it while they continue to actually kill us?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Awareness Reply with quote

It`s hard to believe that millions of intelligent citizens all over the world have never heard of Bilderberg - that fact alone illustrates the power they wield.

I try to spread the word among my circle of friends and family, once people are aware of the existence of Bilderbergers, et al, they can decide for themselves whether their meetings are designed to benefit the so-called "elite" or the rest of us.

Sites like this, however valuable, do tend to preach to the converted, perhaps we should channel our energy into suggesting ways of increasing awareness of Biderberg to the general population?

The recent UK Bye- Election at Howden & Haltemprice attracted a record number of candidates - including a certain David Icke! What about setting up an anti-elite Party? - it could be called "Beware Bilderberg" or similar. At least the resultant publicity would encourage people to find out who or what Bilderberg is all about.

I for one am prepared to support such a strategy financially if others would participate.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"So what are we gonna do"? Well, judging by the activity on this site, not a lot.LOL
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:16 am    Post subject: Hi yfactor and CJ Reply with quote

Some good ideas you have there yfactor, I agree completely.

CJ your right too, beats me how people are so unwilling to take their destiny into THEIR OWN hands. What do you suggest?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject: SHEEP??? Reply with quote

So come on all you sheep, cos thats what most of you clearly are judging by the lack of response to my thread.

Are you all actually gonna do something instead of blowing a load of hot air on this site you gimps?

All of you who read this thread, then at least say hi, least so I know there are some who are alive and want to stop being sheep.

Hey, I AINT GOT ALL THE ANSWERS. Get your asses in gear and your heartbeat going and actually join this debate with some ideas as to what we can do, because, HOLY MOLY, WE ARE IN DEEP SHIT LEFT TO THE BILDERBERGERS AND THEIR ILK.

If you dont wanna die an ignorant smuck like your parents, and their parents, and their parents before them and so on, then at least say hello to begin with if you haven't got any immediate ideas, and say you agree with the notion that we need a NEW plan of ACTION to save ourselves from our own inaction and ignorance.

If not for yourselves, then consider this sheeple.... think of the way some children ask their parents now, mam/dad, how the hell did you let them get away with shooting JFK full in the head in broad fookin daylight, in front of the whole world? How did you let them get away with it?

Well think on that friends, for things have got quite a bit more perilous for us humans since then thanks to the activities of these goons, maybe the same goons who shot JFK, MAYBE BECAUSE WE HAVE SO FAR LET THEM GOONS GET AWAY WITH THEIR CRIMES IS THE REASON WE ARE IN DEEP DO DO NOW.

Behold sheeple, IF WE TOLERATE THIS, THEN OUR CHILDREN WILL ABSOLUTELY BE NEXT!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I`m in the process of deleting all my posts on this site.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Freedom? Reply with quote

What sickens me most MM is the way the media bombard us with propaganda. China has been subjected to almost total negative reporting as the Olympics approached - their record on human rights and censorship being the main targets. Then Bush trots out the usual mantra about "Freedom of the Press" which the West is supposed to enjoy but is denied to others. If our Press is so free why don`t we read articles about the Bilderbergers !
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CJ wrote:
I`m in the process of deleting all my posts on this site.


Why you doing that CJ
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Re: Freedom? Reply with quote

yfactor wrote:
What sickens me most MM is the way the media bombard us with propaganda. China has been subjected to almost total negative reporting as the Olympics approached - their record on human rights and censorship being the main targets. Then Bush trots out the usual mantra about "Freedom of the Press" which the West is supposed to enjoy but is denied to others. If our Press is so free why don`t we read articles about the Bilderbergers !


Its because our media isn't free, it is overtly and covertly controlled. You know this. We have to think of a way to combat and usurp this reality.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: Freedom? Reply with quote

yfactor wrote:
What sickens me most MM is the way the media bombard us with propaganda. China has been subjected to almost total negative reporting as the Olympics approached - their record on human rights and censorship being the main targets. Then Bush trots out the usual mantra about "Freedom of the Press" which the West is supposed to enjoy but is denied to others. If our Press is so free why don`t we read articles about the Bilderbergers !


Undoubtably THE most sickening thing to me is the sheeples inability/unwillingness/sheer cowardice with regard to their own destiny, and taking a stand. Lol, I mean, look at the pathetic response to this thread for instance.

Judgeing by the said pathetic response/lack of response, the sheeple on this forum are either only innit for the smug ego, or they are in the parasitic money hungry brigade who use this info to sell books/dvds/lecture tours.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Major Marcel,


As a member of the French speaking forum, I read your post and heard your call. Here is my personal answer...

What we're facing right now is the return of NAZISM and FASCISM. Before scoffing, please read very carefully the article located at https://secure.gn.apc.org/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2974 , and you shall see that what happened in Germany between 1920 and 1945 is almost IDENTICAL to what we're facing NOW !!!

But the risk is even bigger now, since we face the development of an INTERNATIONAL and WORLDWIDE Nazism, with the help of the new liberty-killing technologies and mass destruction weapons !!!

The article insists on this : if Nazism was able to develop and rule, it was not due to Hitler and to the Nazis. It was mainly due to the COWARDICE AND THE LACK OF REACTION OF THE GERMAN CITIZENS !

Today, the same cowardice and lack of reaction of the individuals and of the citizens (worldwide) is what allows the Nazi renewal to take root !!!

THE SOLUTION IS QUITE "SIMPLE", FRANKLY : WE NEED ACTIONS ! WE NEED RESISTANCE ! WE NEED REVOLTS ! WE NEED INSURRECTIONS AGAINST TYRANNY, AGAINST THE SUPPRESSION OF LIBERTIES AND PRIVACY ! WE NEED WIDESPREAD REVOLUTIONS !!!

Some countries are already submerged by the "antiterrorist", one world Big Brother police-state (USA, UK).

In the USA, many citizens still have a weapon (gun). If these people would only revolt, not even the police and the military could stop them !

The tyrans must be dethroned, no matter if they're called George W. Bush, Gordon Brown, Nicolas Sarkozy, Silvio Berlusconi... ! AND the institutions that are part of the new world order (Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission etc.) and ALL their members must be stopped and judged for crimes against humankind !

This might seem "violent" or "extreme", but please remember THIS : if we let the current international nazi system reach its goals, we might seem a 3rd world war (with the possible use of many nuclear warheads), torture, the use of termination camps (I remind you that the USA have more than 600 concentration camps on their own territories), the suppression of liberties (including free agency... chip implants and psychotronic weapons allow behavioral, emotional and mind control) !

Nazism, fascism and World War II made 40.000.000 victims. Please, let's not something like this EVER happen again !

Vic.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: So - What We Gonna Do??? Reply with quote

One thing is clear - if freedom of speech dies the world dies with it.

But to answer your question

1. raise public awareness (difficult because their stooges are in many key media positions to blind the viewers)
2. organise collectively outside their capitalist system (happenning here for example)
3. this is the most serious situation the world has ever faced so don't expect too much from us poor and ordinary people.

Major Marcel wrote:

One thing is clear, talking/discussing on sites like these are not doing anything to stop them, or even cause them mild discomfort. They carry on regardless.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yes and here is the answer


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6348805187396861715
Leon Rosselson, Andrew Bradstock, Jim Paton - Diggers 350 Weybridge - 34 min - Aug 5, 2008
Tony Gosling - groups.yahoo.com/group/diggers350/message/21

Recorded Tuesday 30th March 1999. "And that not only this Common, or Heath should be taken in and Manured by the People, but all the Common...all » Recorded Tuesday 30th March 1999. "And that not only this Common, or Heath should be taken in and Manured by the People, but all the Commons and waste Ground in England, and in the whole World, shall be taken in by the People in righteousness, not owning any Propriety; but taking the Earth to be a Common Treasury, as it was first made for all." Gerrard Winstanley, The True Levellers' Standard Advanced, 1649 30th March - 5th April 1999 A week of Digger activities and action in London and around George Hill, Surrey. To be followed by Digger occupations everywhere. Land not Jobs ......... Homes for All. Cast off the Norman Yoke by 2066! If you don't have anything else planned this Easter weekend, you could do worse than a spot of trespassing on some mountain or moorland that will soon be open as of right. Alternatively, if you prefer to exercise your brain as well as your legs on some of the wider issues of land use and ownership, both today and in the past, you might like to join the motley band of modern-day Levellers and Diggers who will be assembling at St George's Hill, near Weybridge, Surrey, on Saturday 3rd April. There they will be marking the 350th anniversary of the original Diggers' occupation of common land on the hill, shortly after the beheading of Charles I, when Gerard Winstanley led a group of mainly landless peasants to plough and sow the waste with the intention "that we may . . . lay the Foundation of making the Earth a Common Treasury for All, both Rich and Poor". "Was the Earth made to preserve a few covetous, proud men to live at ease, and for them to bag and barn up the treasures of the Earth from others, that these may beg or starve in a fruitful land, or was it made to preserve all her children?" asked Winstanley in The New Law of Righteousness. Faced with a furious and often violent response from the landed interests of their day, the Digger settlements in Surrey and elsewhere lasted barely a year. But their belief in common ownership lived on, to the extent that a sympathetic exhibition now running in the nearby Elmbridge Museum bills the Diggers as the founders of British socialism and St George's Hill as the "birthplace of communism".....(in its true sense)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well we will do nothing as usuall. We will let them to sign contracts against the law. We will let them to pretend that they will save us. We will let them to do what they want with people they choose.

As usuall, they have an power, we have a nothing more than bullshit.

We don't know how to controll ourselves and now some of us want to controll whole world. People are like a kids on the playground indeed.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Apathy Rules UK ! Reply with quote

The only really Democratic choice we have in England is between Right- Wing Conservatism and slightly less Right-Wing New Labour - no wonder the population takes little interest in Politics !

We need new political parties to emerge which can sweep away the tired old establishment politics and give people the power to shape their own lives instead of being manipulated by the (so-called) elite Bilderbergers et al. An economic recession might force some to doubt whether a market system, which is prone to failure, is the best way to organise society but don`t hold your breath. We`ve been here before as the man said, "History repeats itself, first as tragedy then as farce".

My Downing St e- petition about Bilderberg has been viewed 688 times on this board but only 5 people have signed it. There`s a lot of it (apathy) about!
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