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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a VERY interesting piece of news... It seems that some officials in the Netherlands begin to ask embarrasing questions to Bilderberg members regarding their knowledge, participation and attendance to Bilderberg conference !

This is quite NEW, and might be important IF actions are finally taken against the Bilderberg scums !




Source : http://www.prisonplanet.com/dutch-prime-minister-grilled-over-bilderberg-following-prison-planet-article.html


DUTCH PRIME MINISTER GRILLED OVER BILDERBERG FOLLOWING PRISON PLANET ARTICLE


Dutch MP formally petitions PM Jan-Peter Balkenende and Minister for European Affairs over involvement with globalist cabal


Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, May 15, 2009

A Dutch Member of Parliament has formally petitioned Prime Minister Jan-Peter Balkenende and his European Affairs Minister Frans Timmermans concerning their involvement with the Bilderberg Group, citing an article released by Prison Planet last week.

“In his web log on May 13, Member of Parliament of the Socialist Party, Harry van Bommel, refers to, and footnotes, (Paul Joseph) Watson’s article on information confided to Bilderberg researcher Daniel Estulin concerning the agenda of the secretive meeting,” writes Jurriaan Maessen.
Prime Minister Balkenende attended the Bilderberg Group conference in Washington DC last year, before meeting with President Bush, along with Queen Beatrix and her son William-Alexander. Queen Beatrix is a regular attendee of the elitist confab and was photographed by our reporters arriving at Bilderberg last year.

In our original May 6 article, we reported on Bilderberg’s leaked agenda for 2009, which according to investigative journalist Estulin was weighted heavily around the economy and whether Bilderberg would pursue, “Either a prolonged, agonizing depression that dooms the world to decades of stagnation, decline and poverty … or an intense-but-shorter depression that paves the way for a new sustainable economic world order, with less sovereignty but more efficiency.”

The agenda also spoke of efforts to be made to discredit anti-EU activists in anticipation of another Irish referendum on the Lisbon Treaty later this year.

According to Estulin, “One of their concerns is addressing and neutralizing the anti-Lisbon treaty movement called “Libertas” led by Declan Ganley.

One of the Bilderberger planned moves is to use a whispering campaign in the US media suggesting that Ganley is being funded by arms dealers in the US linked to the US military.”

In his written request, van Bommel demands answers on the Dutch cabinet’s position regarding Bilderberg as well as a clarification of their stance on the purported plans to discredit Ganley.

According to Maessen’s translation, van Bommel writes, “From the leaked agenda we learn that there will be discussed how to deal with the anti-Lisbon movement ‘Libertas’ through a slander campaign against its leader Declan Ganley. It remains a serious setback for the elite, not just the European elite, that the treaty has still not been ratified’, Van Bommel explains. ‘They wish for a more powerful European Union, even it is realised through undemocratic games. Considering the regularly attendance of our royal house and ministers, I have asked Prime Minister Balkenende and Minister for European Affairs Timmermans to have the political participants withstand such a slander campaign.”

Van Bommel follows this with a full list of questions for Balkenende and Timmermans.


1- Are you aware that from May 14 to 17 2009 in Vouliagmeni, Greece, the Bilderberg conference is gathering?

2- Is it correct that Queen Beatrix will attend?

3- Are there members of the cabinet who will participate in the conference? If so, which members?

4- Is there a consensus in the cabinet on the participation of this conference or is this left to individual members? Is there deliberation between the Prime Minister and the queen in regards to participation?

5- Will you make public the items that will be discussed as well as a list of the participants? If not, why not?

6- Is it correct that the Lisbon-treaty will be prominent on the agenda of this Bilderberg-conference?

7- Are you familiar with the report that speaks of the planned discrediting of anti-Lisbon movement ‘Libertas’ with the help of a slander campaign against its leader Declan Ganley? Are you willing to request of Queen Beatrix or political participants from the Netherlands to withstand any such slander campaign?


This is another example of how the Internet can pierce through the international media blackout on Bilderberg and lead to hard questions being asked of world leaders in major European parliaments like the Netherlands.

We wait with anticipation as to whether or not the Dutch Prime Minister will be forced to answer van Bommel’s questions regarding his involvement with Bilderberg. Previous questions in the British House of Commons directed towards MP’s as well as former Prime Minister Tony Blair have led to little more than half-truths and lies.

In 1999, responding to a question about if he planned to attend the Bilderberg meeting in Portugal that year, Tony Blair claimed that, “There is no formal representation by the UK Government,” at Bilderberg Group meetings despite the fact that MP’s for both major political parties in Britain routinely attend Bilderberg.

Blair brazenly lied in front of Parliament again in October 2006 when, in response to a question regarding Bilderberg by MP Norman Baker, he stated, “I have not attended any such meetings,” despite the fact that he attended the 1993 Bilderberg meeting in Greece.
A full list of question regarding Bilderberg asked in the House of Commons can be found via this link.

“If the Member of Parliament will receive any answers from the Prime Minister remains to be seen. But it is an encouraging sign that some in the political playing field will take their jobs seriously and do what every public servant should do when confronted with a plethora of the most powerful people in the world meeting in secret with no questions asked,” writes Maessen.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: Sorry Tony Reply with quote

I can`t tell anyone what YOU are thinking, but your actions speak volumes.

I have quoted what Estulin said to Alex Jones....if you want to keep your head in the sand, then that`s up to you. As I said, read Estulin, but understand that he is just a NWO disinformation pipe. You however, give Estulin a teflon coating, you never question, you promote as if it were from the Bible. Where you stand, is where you are judged and you have been given the opportunity to alter your position by having one person (me) raise a wagging finger, when Estulin first posted on this forum, I asked him a simple question....Estulin failed to reply.LOL

Tucker always turns up at Bilderberg, Gosling runs the site, Estulin writes the books and leaks the propaganda and AJ runs a site, does radio and interviews....quite a package. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

re: the spontaneous protest

must be a set up, considering the amount of anarchist activity esp. in athens lately - can't find the link at the mo, but there was an explosion in athens in the last few days
there has been several incidents by the self-proclaimed 'golden dawn' as well as other more general esp. anti-police action, against which the police seem unprepared/unwilling to deal with
there seems to be a peculiar hangover from the days of the military junta, in that the police are 'constrained' in what they can do, lest they impinged on the freedoms of society.
this last week, a bill was proposed in parliament, to allow police to track and identify troublemakers using CCTV - iirc at the moment, legally speaking, CCTV may be used for traffic control purposes ONLY

my point being, there are plenty of serious agitators out there, ready to cause real damage, but they seem strangely absent, seemingly content to harass the police/govt. at a 'local' level - unless they see the security around BB and have decided it's not worth it - the BB 'security' in the meantime are prepared to deal with ANY interference with maximum force, possibly to 'discourage' anything more serious.
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps those more experienced than i can help here.
when a meeting is on, are the 'local' attendees generally out-of-circulation for the duration?

only asking because karamanlis has been involved in official business

http://www.ana.gr/anaweb/user/showplain?maindoc=7604523&maindocimg=7601402&service=6

also with dora bakoyiannis

http://www.ana.gr/anaweb/user/showplain?maindoc=7606211&service=142

and papandreou is in china

http://www.ana.gr/anaweb/user/showplain?maindoc=7603895&maindocimg=7594698&service=8

these are the 3 most important figures in greece politically and are previous BB attendees.
seems to be pretty heavy, high-level activities to be going on when the world's great-and-good are in your own front room, deciding how to carve up the world between them?
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject: Many a true word said in jest Reply with quote

Articles in the Guardian and Times....doesn`t that tell you something? Cool
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 1:42 pm    Post subject: Bilderberg 2009 Reply with quote

The coverage of this Bilderberg meeting is being still more ridiculous than tha swine flu hoax,

I am with you CJ, it smells really bad. It remembers me one of those realities on TV...were you suppose you are getting real facts about the life of a guy but it is all a pose. Guys as Jim Tucker and Alex Jones are supposed to be there but we have not almost any significant information. Guardian and Times on this event? C´mon they are part of the Elite, they will never cover this meeting if it was real, at least, that they do it to laugh on "conspiranoics".

Every day I am more convinced by the hypothesis that Bilderberg already met before Swine Flu plans developed. Estulin, Tucker, Skelton and Jones still have not present any real clue and are creating a kind of "show" around this meeting in Greece. Feeding us with that which is supposed to be this kind of meetings. We have no pics, videos, testimonies, anything that CONFIRMS that the meeting is really going on in Greece, and they are the only resources supplying the claimed evidences. I think that all this is part of a plot by the Elite to spread disinformation that let free the Elite to continue meeting in secrecy. If they were being really incrinsingly exposed, why they will keep the same name, same dates, same structure every year? It does not make sense, these guys are not as stupid to put pride over practical....Come on, they have researched psycology for years in order to infer ideas on people in the most sophisticated ways and, then, are they going to be caught due to pride?

There is something else here. I see the intention to collect people like us, lovers of freedom and human rights to make of us extremists or terrorists in the eyes of the rest of the world through the regular MSM. The Elite knows that internet is powerful, but also a danger as can´t be controlled as the regular MSM. The only way they can get free of real researchers exposing their actions could be the creation of a movement using a complex mechanism of indy websites and book writers. According to their own informations (see last articles of AFP), the US government is developing legislation to incriminate almost everybody against the government policies as terrorists groups. If you want to implement the North American Union and kill the dollar ...you know that you have to be prepared for riots and protests in the streets. Swine flu in US at the time of the economic colapse will serve to endorse quarintines that will immobilize people. The new laws that are trying to pass will allow removing weapons and the detention of everybody which is suspected to be a terrorist. This staff will diminish the probabilities of hard consequences and Martial Law. My idea is that the consortium Tucker-Jones-Estulin started supplying real information about the Elite to capt smart people (most of them carring the own investigations on the banking elite). The next step was to predict real phenomena to increase general trust on them creating LEADERS. Thanks to this Estulin who was noone for the general audience three years ago, now is one of the most respectful Bilderberg-watch cited in hundreds or millions of websites in the world. You also have the Zeitgeist movement capting people.
Which is the main point of this? 1. Keep us disinformed about their real future movements. 2. Charging us with the tag of extremists or terrorists? The second point must be seriously taken, because one of the future policies of the Elite (which is still in preparation) is the attack of internet. It is starting to be said in MSM about illegal activities and gangs using the internet. In future they will attack the internet to justify the necessity of increasing the control of the internet. This groups will be seen then as extremists and terrorists which organize around the internet and will be used to justify the control of the internet. Then, we will come back to the times were we just had the MSM.
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benjamin Fulford wrote:
Special message to the Bilderbergers: It is over, you have no place to hide on this planet

To the self-appointed world rulers at the Bilderberg meeting: you must by now realize it is over. Your final attempt to betray the world to a nasty Chinese faction has been rejected both by the Chinese and the rest of the world. You will soon lose the remnants of your US power base. As you know, there is a group with a legal license to kill that has been getting busy working on your underlings as they approach the center of your power base. The yakuza are also gearing up for something big, according to my own high level sources. So are the US special forces. You have been made an offer that it would be very wise to accept. We expect to hear from you soon.

The six media barons in your group are also hereby kindly asked to start reporting the real truth to the sheeple. Zionism has run its course, the offspring of David must heed the word of their patriarch Abraham. No true Jew would have ever contemplated massacring 4 billion people.


http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

Bizarre? Maybe, but this source has been proven entirely correct in the past.

@anthropophilia
It is my personal opinion that your comment is not entirely accurate. For a start I think you need to get a better understanding of where Tucker's coming from. There are countless shades of grey in any human endeavour.

Yes, it does smell very bad right now; but no, agents of disinformation do not expose so much nor make so much noise in so doing. Effective ones are far far more subtle...
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anthropophilia wrote:
Then, we will come back to the times were we just had the MSM.


I disagree. If we have been assiduous in our research since Usenet began, we are in a far better position than, say, the French and German Resistances ever were.

As long as people are able to run laptops and DVD players, all this info can be passed around off our overstuffed offline hard discs and flash drives. When/if they go, you have your paper back-ups of seminal information ready for that old xerox...

And as for being a cybermarked 'turrurist', we can only die once. No fear. No problem.
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Source : http://www.prisonplanet.com/journalist-detained-at-bilderberg-footage-from-police-station.html

JOURNALIST DETAINED AT BILDERBERG : FOOTAGE FROM POLICE STATION

Paul Dorneanu
Saturday, May 16, 2009

Video taken inside the Greek police station by journalist Paul Dorneanu. Taken with a phone camera.

For the video : http://www.prisonplanet.com/journalist-detained-at-bilderberg-footage-from-police-station.html
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Source : http://www.prisonplanet.com/our-man-at-bilderberg-im-ready-to-lose-control-but-theyre-not.html


OUR MAN AT BILDERBERG : I'M READY TO LOSE CONTROL, BUT THEY'RE NOT


Charlie Skelton feels a sudden need to apologise for the trouble he's caused, swiftly followed by a rush of revolutionary rage against the powers that be being so, well, powerful


Charlie Skelton
guardian.co.uk, Friday 15 May 2009 17.22 BST


I want to talk about Bilderberg 2009. But beyond a simple "yes, it's happening, it's real, the leaders of the world are hanging out here for the weekend", what can I say? It's a private meeting.

I don't know if they're discussing global financial unification or the season finale of Grey's Anatomy over their prawn cocktails. I don't even know what the vegetarian option is for starters. Butternut squash?

You're going to have to forgive me for speculating, but that's all I can do. I'm not a proper reporter. I don't have the foggiest of my rights (if any) to stand on public footpaths and point cameras. I don't even have a proper camera. But what I do have is this: a sense of something rotten in the state of Greece. To my nose, there's not a healthy smell wafting down from the Astir Palace. Or maybe that was the egg and pepper roll I had for breakfast.

Sorry if some of these speculations are wrongheaded, but I'm doing a lot of this thinking for the first time and I've only just shaken off my police escort. Sorry if I sound shrill or petulant, self-righteous or precious, sorry if my perceptions have been tilted by anger … sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry for bothering you Mr Bilderberg. I've spent the last three days apologising to everyone. Sorry to the staff at my hotel for having plainclothes officers loafing around in their lobby. Sorry to the plainclothes officers themselves for having to drag them around Vougliameni on a wild goose chase (I bought them some chilled water, and took it to them while they shuffled awkwardly behind a tree). Sorry then to the desk sergeant for bothering her with my predicament: "I'm being followed around like a criminal, I wonder if you wouldn't mind asking them to stop? I'm not doing anything wrong, and it's getting … well … a bit annoying."

I'm going to stop apologising now. I'm going to try and make sense of my experiences. It's not easy; I don't want to sound feeble-minded, but this has been a lot to take in. I feel a bit like I've driven down the wrong alley and suddenly don't recognise anything, and people are staring at me and not simply to admire my hair. I'm jumpy. I think someone has been in my room and moved my laptop. I know this sounds bonkers, I know it does, but I took a photo of it before I left the room and it wasn't where I left it.

Listen to me. I sound like a fruitcake. Three days and I've been turned into a suspect, a troublemaker, unwanted, ill at ease, tired and a bit afraid. And I haven't even walked up the road to the Bilderberg hotel since the whole "get in the car!" incident. I've been trying to stay out of trouble, but trouble has followed me down the hill.

So – to make sense of it. I'm going to begin here: with the face of the first Bilderberg delgate I saw in the flesh. I was trying, lamely, to get a snap of some delegates as they swooshed through Vougliameni in their mirrored limos with their plainclothes motorcycle outriders and police escorts. And one of them had their window open. I was so excited I forgot to bring the camera to my face and took a photo of the hubcap. What I saw I won't forget. It was a 40-something man with his head thrown back, laughing and laughing, the perfect photograph that only my retina will ever see.

And you know what: no wonder he was happy. It must be WAY COOL to be sirened through Greek streets in the back of bulletproof limo on your way to the COOLEST party in the world. You've been invited by the coolest of the cool kids to hang out for the weekend. Your cool cousin's über-cool older brother and his way cool friends have got a keg of beer and a pool in the yard, and their parents are away and you think Jessica might be going. THIS IS THE BEST PARTY EVER! Turn on the sirens! We're coming through! Woohoo!

And your life is already pretty cool. You already own a newspaper or head a thinktank, or you're the UK secretary of state for business, enterprise and regulatory reform, or you run Fiat, or you're chairman of the Federal Reserve or Queen of the Netherlands, or president of Shell Oil. You run stuff. You have big ideas. You're in control, and control is fun.

Bilderberg is all about control. It's about "what shall we do next?" We run lots of stuff already, how about we run some more? How about we make it easier to run stuff? More efficient. Efficiency is good. It would be so much easier with a single bank, a single currency, a single market, a single government. How about a single army? That would be pretty cool. We wouldn't have any wars then. This prawn cocktail is GOOD. How about a single way of thinking? How about a controlled internet?

How about not.

I am so unbelievably backteeth sick of power being flexed by the few. I've had it flexed in my face for three days, and it's up my nose like a wasp. I don't care whether the Bilderberg Group is planning to save the world or shove it in a blender and drink the juice, I don't think politics should be done like this. This might be a facile point, but if they were organising a charity snooker league, they could do it upstairs at Starbucks. If they were trying to cure cancer they could do it with the lights on. Innocent thoughts can be minuted.

Or maybe they're simply swingers. Maybe that's why the curtains are drawn. Imagine chucking your key in the tub and pulling out Ken Clarke. Sorry Timothy Geithner, that's the cost of doing business.

I have a confession. (I'm not a swinger, that's not it.) My confession is that being tailed today by Greek special branch, and doubling back through a cafe and catching them out, and buying them chilled water on a hot day like in Beverley Hills Cop, when Eddie Murphy has room service sent to their car – all this was pretty exciting. It's was my own little episode of the Equaliser. (The Greequaliser? No, really no, I'm tired). Being tailed was exciting and funny and absurd and confusing and terrifying and utterly, utterly wrong. And I know this sounds pathetic but I got a bit teary in the police station when I was telling the nice desk sergeant lady that I'm not a bad person and not a threat to anyone, and it would be nice if someone could call off the goons. I don't like to be made to feel like this. I've been "put" in this position, and I haven't deserved it.

Bilderberg is about positions of control. I get within half a mile of it, and suddenly I'm one of the controlled. I'm followed, watched, logged, detained, detained again. I'd been put in that position by the "power" that was up the road.

Likewise, the Bilderberg delegates occupy a position of power over the bobbing ignorance of the people patting beach balls in the sea, and me with my crappy little camera and my curiosity and my ill-formed sense of citizenship. I may not be very good at bearing witness here, but I'm doing my best. I haven't shinned over the fence and shoved a camera in David Rockefeller's face but I don't want to be shot in the forehead.

A final thought for the day. In the fable, the men may have been blind but they did at least get to grope the elephant before trying to describe it. Now shove that elephant in the back of a blacked-out Mercedes S600, whisk it off into a luxury Greek resort, circle it with heavily armed guards and helicopters, hand it a Martini, and pay the local police to harass, detain and follow anyone showing even the slightest interest of grabbing a flank. That, my friend, is the beast that is Bilderberg 2009.
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Source : http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-news-blackout-continues.html


BILDERBERG : NEWS BLACKOUT CONTINUES


Steve Watson
Prisonplanet.com
Saturday, May 16, 2009


One single short article in the Wall Street Journal that merely acknowledges this weekend’s Bilderberg Group meeting in Athens is the only US media coverage of a confab involving around 150 of the globe’s most influential movers and shakers.

“The managers of world capitalism aren’t always popular, which is one reason the Group of Seven leaders now meet in out-the-way resorts that are hard for protestors to reach.” WSJ reports.

A Google News searchon “Bilderberg,” which is now in its third day, returns 33 results, all of which consist of articles from this website, a smattering of other alternative media reports, in addition to a snippet from the French Press Agency and Charlie Skelton’s London Guardian updates.


Even if you accept the ludicrous claim of the debunkers - that Bilderberg is a mere “talking shop” that contributes nothing towards actual policy - do you still not think it odd that only one mainstream U.S. press outlet has even mentioned it in passing?

A mere book signing by an ex-politician would generate at least a few headlines, yet we have dozens of CEO’s, European and Federal Reserve banking and finance kingpins, Prime Ministers, European royalty, NSA officials, professors from top Universities, NATO and UN officials, oil company chairmen, and foreign policy luminaries meeting behind closed doors and yet only one U.S. media report!

The outright complicity of the corporate media in blackballing Bilderberg coverage reminds us why the elite encounter little hindrance in conspiring in such a secretive and undemocratic manner every single year without facing any substantial public scrutiny.
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an article with a bit more information that what we heard so far... Wink

Of course, we only have the word of Jim Tucker, and we're left with it... But I guess that it is better than nothing.

I apologize for posting articles from Prisonplanet and The Guardian, but, well... we cannot exactly say that the coporate and prostituted medias are reporting a lot on this event, and once again the media blackout is almost total !

Nevertheless, we at least DO have articles ! In a not so distant past, even the existence of the Bilderberg meeting was denied, the date was kept secret and testimonies were always criticized in a debunking purpose.

I guess we don't have much information, but at least we have some ! And at least, I make an effort in order to bring the existing info to this forum.

For those who like to criticize everything, please know this : critics are easy, but art is more difficult. THERE ARE SIMPLE THINGS YOU CAN DO to get more info ! For instance, if you have a fax machine, call the Bilderberg headquarters (the fax number can be found in last year's posts) and request this year's official list of attendees. It will be a start...

I believe the Bilderberg mascarade will only come to an end the day people actually RIOT and REVOLT in the streets where the NWO meetings (Bilderberg, CFR, Trilateral Commission etc.) occur. It will only end when there is an actual ATTACK against the world elite, the Bilderbergers and the new world order. Reporters who cover the event cannot do more than what is done currently : they report and CONFIRM that the Bildebrerg meeting EXISTS and is REAL, and that the ANTIDEMOCRATIC REPRESSION (police, helicopters, guards, etc.) is also a REALITY. This means that thsi meeting is absolutely ABNORMAL in a society that stil claioms to be "democratic".

But know this : it is the role of the CITIZENS and the POPULATIONS to rebel and to cut the Beast's head ! NO ONE, NO ASSOCIATION WHATSOEVER WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS ! WE need to stick togetehr, to take our responsibilities and to ACT !


Otherwise, we'll only get a 4th Reich-styled dictatorship, and the new world order totalitarian takeover.

The article, below...

HAVE A NICE REVOLUTION... OR A NICE SLAVERY UNDER THE N.W.O. DICTATORSHIP ! Vic.




Source : http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-wants-global-department-of-health-global-treasury.html


BILDERBERG WANTS GLOBAL DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, GLOBAL TREASURY


Veteran investigative journalist Jim Tucker unveils Bilderberg’s 2009 agenda


Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Saturday, May 16, 2009

Veteran investigative journalist Jim Tucker has uncovered Bilderberg’s 2009 agenda, which includes the plan for a global department of health, a global treasury and a shortened depression rather than a longer economic downturn.

Appearing on The Alex Jones Show, Tucker said that former Swedish Prime Minister and regular Bilderberg attendee Carl Bildt, “Made a speech advocating turning the World Health Organization into a world department of health, advocating turning the IMF into a world department of treasury, both of course under the auspices of the United Nations.”

Tucker noted that such moves would constitute giant steps toward the world government that Bilderberg has set about to achieve but has been frustrated in finalizing over the past 10 years.

Tucker said that Bilderberg are keen on stressing the problems caused by the economic crisis, as well as the threat of a disease pandemic, as a means of justifying centralization of power.

According to Tucker, Bildt also discussed global warming in the context of a global tax on carbon emissions, which has long been a part of Bilderberg’s agenda.

The global tax which will be paid directly to the UN will be introduced gradually, first of all as a barely noticeable tax at the gas pump, before being hiked up once it is in place, said Tucker.

Regarding the crucial Lisbon Treaty, which was struck down after Irish voters said no to its passage last year, Tucker said that Bilderberg were planning to privately send representatives to Ireland to talk to political leaders in an effort to push the treaty through. The EU requires all member states to ratify the treaty before it can be passed and Irish voters will again be asked to vote in a referendum later this year despite having already rejected the treaty last year.

Tucker said that a key component of this year’s Bilderberg Group meeting was an effort to get President Obama to, “Slip through ratification of the International Criminal Court treaty,” by forwarding it to the Senate to be voted on.

“Their tactics are this,” said Tucker, “Obama is to sweet talk the many left-wing Democrats in Congress who really want the International Criminal Court treaty, they’re just scared because people were so strongly opposed to surrendering sovereignty that they were afraid to vote for it - political cowards - so Obama’s going to sweet talk them and say don’t worry, we’ll have more liberals in the Senate after the 2010 elections so in January of 2011 when the new Senate is seated you can ratify it late on a Saturday night when it’s too late for Sunday morning papers and to re-plan the Sunday talk shows….there will be no political reprisals.”

Tucker confirmed the information first released by Daniel Estulin, that Bilderberg were discussing whether to sink the economy quickly or drag on a long agonizing depression. “Treasury Secretary Geithner and Carl Bildt touted a shorter recession not a 10-year recession….partly because a 10 year recession would damage Bilderberg industrialists themselves, as much as they want to have a global department of labor and a global department of treasury, they still like making money and such a long recession would cost them big bucks industrially because nobody is buying their toys….the tilt is towards keeping it short,” said Tucker.

Tucker concluded by noting that Bilderberg members seemed grim faced at this year’s meeting and that geopolitically, “Things are going bad for them, Americans are responding, Europeans are responding, and their program is being blocked.”
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so charlie skelton is the man-on-the-spot and that's all he can come up with?
' i'm not a proper reporter' - we guessed that, but no doubt the grauniad's readership are hanging on your every word
'don't even have a proper camera' - that's what photographers are for - they can spot a new tattoo on some z-list celeb's arse at 1000yrds ffs

does this guy even know what any of the potential attendees look like?

<cynic hat on>is there any concrete proof i.e. images etc. that there's actually anyone here at the mo'?<cynic hat off>

could this just be a smokescreen?
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOR THE OFFICIAL BILDERBERG 2009 ATTENDEES LIST : IF YOU HAVE A FAX, PLEASE CALL MAJA BANK (+31) 71 5280 521 AND INTRODUCE A REQUEST ! Exclamation Wink

There are a number of things we can already deduce from the sector and specialization of some atendees... Plus, we need to know who was there, so these people can be asked embarrassing questions afterwards. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you who undertsand French, I've been posting an analysis, a comment and a translation of the article

"BILDERBERG WANTS GLOBAL DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, GLOBAL TREASURY"

on the topic "forum discussion libre".
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