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samuel · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 78

You say the elite are fractured on the issue of plunge protection team.

Some say they want to test the derivative market before crashing the credit market in high yeld countries.

But at the same time there is a lot of power given to hedge funds traders and private equity so it all depend on the transparency of security apparatus, which could lower their leverage on manipulating markets and central banks.

To see how transparent things are going on, energy wars such as preferential treatment between saudi arabia and japan that are spreading even with corporation not involved in energy drilling to buy and hold themself the oil they will need later (buying parts of energy corp)

So right now its easy to drop, but many great effort are made so it seems only plausible with a catastrophic failure in the dark liquidity sector or a big earthquake in shanguai (geologically speaking).

About dark liquidity, trade secret are ethically right but at this level of power it could become a liability that spread paranoya among people who can't even discuss with elites. Since they remain the majority, it gives some justification for the control of information vs protectionism to both hold the world into dichotomy simplism.

Just hoping you still have energy to fight this conflict of paranoid people, they remain respectable since all this going on is clearly not sustainable if everybody NEVER trust the neighborhood.
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CJ · Suspended Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 540 Location: London

samuel · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 78

Yes sire i am the same samuel.

About economic shock to slow down an ideological rival, i'd say they are more occupied with pervez musharaff loosing grip and the fact that half the elected officials in utar pradesh have a criminal records.

Also the energy giant Eni is attacked by insurgents in niger delta while BP is not because of a deal that could bolster the strenght of criminals acting over a cover of nationalism.

Also Chavez is trying to build a regional development bank in competition with the inter-american development bank (IADB), the brazilian BNDES, the Andean Development Corporation (CAF) and the Fund for the River Plate Basin (Fonplata). High amount of business in venezuela by brazilian corporations will probably make brazil supportive if not publicly.

Still all these informations are available because big medias are looking at it, don't focus on them instead look for the twin credit and energy availability.

Both are taboo subjects and the markets tend not to come here for information so they won't over-react to you getting involved.

They believe this site is socially conservative and forum about market informations such as planet traders invest only where social conservatives are hierarchical enough to have a steady amount of cash flow. But still have a demographic growth able to sustain private partnership in public infrastructures.

Such as mormons, jeovah's witness, evangelical mass media in south america/africa and muslim in pakistan and ethiopia.

Tesla would love to live right now, isn't it?
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CJ · Suspended Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 540 Location: London

samuel · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 78

Not everyone in my neighborhood want to believe me when i say alternative energy equipment are in a shortage for 2-3 years, uranium for 5 years and antinomy are supposed to be in a shortage in 10-15 years.

Equipment for telecom (semiconductor), pipeline, and x-ray are in danger of a shortage in 10 to 15 years at today's consumption rate which is unlikely since BRIC government won't wait for the public pressure to build up against them to improve services.

People working to lower energy consumption and workers serving boomers in health care facility are the only service usefull right now.

Still there must be pressure to force hedge funds and private conglomerate to slow the protectionist measures that gives us bilateral preferentials deals between big countries and little countries.

They have profited from short trading, forcing workers to respond to everyday news.

They have build up insurance corporations that protect them against everything.

Still they don't see that the end of the war is needed to avoid a genocide.

The downward pressure on wages and prices by china and india is gone, unless india build up no-tax zone as big as in china.
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CJ · Suspended Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 540 Location: London

samuel · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 78

On wsj and FT they talk about it (bear sterns hedge funds, 2 australian hedge funds) all the time, the subprime market is so in panic that maybe they want mature investors and consumers only to know the truth.

Its Pretty much human to be scared of mass panic.

The only one to feel the heat are poor people, because their mutual funds are sold by telemarketing agencies.

The people who decide that whatever is happening outside must not surprise them, which is a luxury only available when you've been given some love or serious help to trust at least part of the world, will look for scientific development and better management.

These subjects are pretty interesting:
1-perennials agricultures would improve yields and soil health in scientific american of august 07
2-using DC power to improve energy conservation in the economist of july 26th
3-peer-to-peer lending

4-opium legalisation in afghanistan for pharma use.

These are mainstream ideas..

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CJ · Suspended Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 540 Location: London

CJ · Suspended Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 540 Location: London

Things are moving nicely...BNP Paribas has suspended 3 of its bond funds this morning, because US liquidity has dried up...no bids, no value...its all gone! Cool

samuel · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 78

The problem here is you have plenty people who haven't been tested properly:

a)they were given hints that the world is only corrupt to the roots.

b)they were too poor to be given any credit (mortgage, land or education)

So you must tell them to wait, that we install a hybrid system which is using renewable energy for the people allready reasonnable and finish ressources for the people who haven't seen the whole mess of over-consumption.

At the same time, you have many people too poor to accept such a strict system so you must give them some kind of access to ressources so they can proove they know the consequences of their act.

To resolve contradictory combination of lack of faith and lack of maturity, you must answer with many solutions without having too much revolt by the people who are too paranoid to understand we cant let them pass without any information relevant to their capacity to keep their responsibility.

So behind the credit crisis, there is a test...messy but still a test.
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CJ · Suspended Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 540 Location: London