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Cliff Huylebroeck
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The drawings are recent, thus these can be fantasies. But I recommend to print stickers with such drawings and to stick them on bus stops near catholic schools. I would have appreciated when I was 6 years old. That would have saved me a lot of crap. My religious teachings in school have not been very useful.

What are the rays coming out of Moses' head?

Why is the serpent brazen? Why is it on a cross? A cross is for humans. Does it imply that it is human?

Is the story of the serpent in the garden of Eden meant to reveal the real identity of God, to introduce the appearance of the real God? Or is it just a symbol for hidden wisdom?

Now suppose that the Jews made a golden serpent instead of a golden calf when Moses came down the mountain Sinai, then I think that he would have reacted in the same way, smashed his tablets and so on.

When they put Jesus to the cross, is it a way of saying: you are the serpent, your place is on the cross?

Now your first photograph of the serpent on its tail. Is it standing on a crown on a boat? Does it mean that it is King?

The second photograph: is the serpent pushed in the air by two arms? What does that mean?

The third photograph: one serpent is on a bed, so it is human, the serpents are not on a throne, they are not men with a snake head. If the serpent is the top master, I would expect a man with a snake head on a throne.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Child-of-Light wrote:

YHWH ! Shem Hameforash ! Hail Satan !

tau cross = hidden wisdom.
serpent = devine wisdom.
brazen = bold or impudent.
impudent = shamelessly bold or disrespectful.
The serpent represents intellect, which allows man to know God.
"The name of God is Satan. This is the hidden devine wisdom."

Code:
Book 02   Exodus

003:013 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children
        of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers
        hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his
        name? what shall I say unto them?

003:014 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus
        shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me
        unto you.

003:015 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the
        children of Israel, the LORD God of your fathers, the God of
        Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me
        unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial
        unto all generations.


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Book 02   Exodus

006:003 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by
        the name of God Almighty, but by my name YHWH was I not
        known to them.


I AM THAT I AM = YHWH

The Jerusalem Bible wrote:
The Tetragrammaton is translated Yahweh.


Jimmy Williams, Founder Probe Ministries wrote:
they spoke "Adonai" every time they read "YHWH" in the text.

The vowel sounds in Adonai are "OH" and "AH." Thus, "Yahweh" becomes "YHO VAH" (rendered in English as "Jehovah").

Most scholars have concluded that the term "YHWH" is actually based upon the "to be" verb in Hebrew, "HYH" (HAYAH). The future tense of this verb is YHWH (Yahweh).


The English or anglicised form is Jehovah.

Code:
Book 02   Exodus

004:002 And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he
        said, A rod.

004:003 And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the
        ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before
        it.

004:004 And the LORD said unto Moses, Put forth thine hand, and take
        it by the tail. And he put forth his hand, and caught it, and
        it became a rod in his hand:

004:005 That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the
        God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath
        appeared unto thee.


The rod and serpent morph is a sign of God.
The rod is a symbol of authority.
Moses' rod is also a symbol of his commission from God.
The staff is a snake = knowledge is power.

Code:
Book 04   Numbers

021:005 And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore
        have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness?
        for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our
        soul loatheth this light bread.

021:006 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they
        bit the people; and much people of Israel died.

021:007 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned,
        for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray
        unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And
        Moses prayed for the people.

021:008 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and
        set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one
        that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

021:009 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and
        it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he
        beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.


The serpent was on a pole, not a cross, but that doesn't matter because they are both public displays. It's brass because it had to be lasting but not too expensive. The symbolic value of brass is very small in the Bible. If it had to be silver or gold, then God would have told him. This means that it was not a public attribute of the official religion. Then it was serpent worship that they didn't want to admit. The serpent plague was just a pretext to worship the serpent. The serpent was a symbol of fertility and sex goddesses. Moses' first commandment was "thou shalt worship no other god". If he worshipped also the serpent, and he didn't feel guilty about it, then that proves that the serpent is the real God of Moses. Catholics say that the worship of the brazen serpent probably started after Moses was dead, but that won't make much difference. He knew that it would end up with serpent worship. He had a lot of advisors who told him that. It was a deliberate move: they didn't trust on God anymore, he was losing control, so he gave them the serpent and then they listened to him again.

It's often unclear how the Bible has to be read. The strong quote from the Bible that rph presented us as a fact was a vision.

Code:
Book 26   Ezekiel

008:007 And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked,
        behold a hole in the wall.

008:008 Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and
        when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.

008:009 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations
        that they do here.

008:010 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping
        things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house
        of Israel, portrayed upon the wall round about.

008:011 And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the
        house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the
        son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a
        thick cloud of incense went up.

008:012 Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the
        ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in
        the chambers of his imagery? for they say, the LORD seeth us
        not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth.


But rph is probably right because the story was probably a fact that was presented as a vision because he didn't want to offend those people too much.

Because they don't admit openly that they worship the serpent there are also different interpretations in the Bible:

Code:
Book 12   2 Kings

018:001 Now it came to pass in the third year of Hoshea son of Elah
        king of Israel, that Hezekiah the son of Ahaz king of Judah
        began to reign.

018:002 Twenty and five years old was he when he began to reign; and
        he reigned twenty and nine years in Jerusalem. His mother's
        name also was Abi, the daughter of Zachariah.

018:003 And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD,
        according to all that David his father did.

018:004 He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down
        the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses
        had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn
        incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.

Hezekiah made the devil worship undone. The brazen serpent was part of it. This proves that it was devil worship.

Strange coincidence:
Wadjat = all seeing eye.
Wadjet = Egyptian serpent goddess.
The pharaos wear a representation of the serpent on their head as a sign of protection by Wadjet.
King and snake = wisdom is power.

There are indeed also connections between Jesus and the serpent:

  • The serpent renews its skin, so it is the symbol of eternal life = Jesus lives forever.
  • They are lifted up = you must believe in them.
  • Jesus is fastened to the cross like a snake.
  • They are cursed.
  • A look at the serpent will cure you = have faith in Jesus and you will live forever.
  • The serpent is the symbol and prototype of the Universal Savior = Jesus.

Eternal life is also an important power of the devil. The 3 powers of the devil are telekinesis, invisibility and eternal life.

When people bow, then it's usually for a devil. Even when it looks good, it's often a disguise of devil worship.

YHWH is a being with a public part 'God' and a private part 'Satan'.

So the part of YHWH that is too risky to worship in public is kept secret as 'Satan' and the rest is called 'God'. When people leave 'God' then they take extreme measures: 'Satan' is brought into public and people come back.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cliff

It is proper to be wary of dark influences, but I do not know of any mainstream church that is free from such influences.

Accordingly you will need to find your own means of distinguishing light from darkness. This is a skill that may take some decades to acquire.

In the meantime you may wish to leave aside the books that people tell you are sacred and pray directly to the Source of All.

This can work since you have a direct connection to the Source of All, but it requires consistent effort before the darkness that infects us each is finally resolved.

Best wishes

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Occam's razor is a thťorie farfelu like the theory that says that the speed of light in the vacuum is constant. Many years all the eminent scientists have claimed this. Now they admit that it was wrong. All that we can say about the universe is that you can't say much about it with certainty, otherwise it wouldn't be the universe.

All that humans have ever proven without assumptions was the theory of finite sets, and the existence of 0 and 1.

As far as I can see, the Old Testament is the chronicle of mind control in the early days. Subliminal messaging and subvocal recognition were already possible in those days. Re-read the Old Testament and your eyes will open.

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Ecclesiastes 10:20

Curse not the king, no not in thy thought;
and curse not the rich in thy bedchamber:
for a bird of the air shall carry the voice,
and that which hath wings shall tell the matter.
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

>do you honestly believe that God dwelt within a stone of bethel and then a small gold box within a temple in Jerusalem?

I think the clue is in the use of the term "the Lord God"

As we know a lord is a good deal lower than a king hence the use of God and Lord for the same entity is a contradiction. The expression is properly "the lord god"

And St Paul tells us that there are gods many and lords many both in heaven and on earth. But few wish to know what that means?

Accordingly St Paul treats us as children suited for milk and not meat and chooses to speak only of Christ and Christ risen.

The gods were and are not very moral by modern standards and claim as their right every perfect first born of all species including humans - as food.
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Child-of-Light wrote:

The bow in the serpent represents the head of Jesus.
Jesus on the cross is the same as the serpent on the pole.
The God of the christians is the same as the devil of the Jews.
The pope and the Jews are united before their idol.
The Jews are taking over the Vatican.

Is the artwork made of empty Coca Cola cans?
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you are saying is absolutely logical.

But as I said before, YHWH is a being with a public part 'God' and a private part 'Satan'.

Now look again at what you said.

Child-of-Light wrote:
If the god of the christians is the same as the devil of the jews what does that make Jesus?


Jesus wanted to omit the private part 'Satan'.

Child-of-Light wrote:
And if the jews had taken over the vatican why would they want us to worship their devil instead of their god?


The Jews want omit the public part 'God'.

Child-of-Light wrote:
Correction as they have always been a part of the scene as in the faith being Judeo Christian it is their god we have been tricked into worshipping all along. Under the outward identitiy of the Cross. Do you honestly think that Jesus would ever want to see annother cross again?


They ask us to worship the public part 'God' while for themselves they will maintain that we are followers of the private part 'Satan'.

Child-of-Light wrote:
As I have maintained all along the Jews were worshipping the devil under the title of "Jehovah" they didnt know that they were doing this but the inner priestd of the levite brotherhood certainly did.


Perfect.

Child-of-Light wrote:
Jesus then came along and told the Jews that they were to stop worshipping mamon and that the house of israel were of the devil


This proves something else than what you want to prove. It doesn't prove that they worship the devil. It says that the law has become more important than God.

Child-of-Light wrote:
and they crucified him in their scapegoat ritual as a messiah sacrifice


I don't know this ritual, but they would have crucified Barabas too.

Child-of-Light wrote:
The god Jesus spoke of was the real one who has no name unlike the one who dwealt within a stone of bethel and later a little golden box inside the temple of solomon which is central to the practices of freemasonry.


Jesus talked about the public part 'God' as if the rest didn't exist. If the Jews accepted this, then the power of the Levites was gone.

Child-of-Light wrote:
As this negative entitiy was worshipped under the outward identitiy of Saturn amoungst others in rome where we get satranalia=xmas from. The constantine who was involved with the whole sol invictus cult had the bible put together for political purposes so that the new Christians would fight on the side of his dying state and also crush any idependent research into the origins which was alo done in practise by the church up untill the mid 20th century. And probably still done in secret.


All true. The first pope was Roman. That makes it very suspect indeed. What he wrote is also in a totally different style, the typical style of a religious sect.

www.accuros.com wrote:
Paul in particular is extremely creative in his allegorical treatment of the Old Testament.

http://www.accuros.com/thornbush/pollen/2ti2_15.htm

Child-of-Light wrote:
My patern of logic fits the evidence yours does not I speak plainly and clearly you talk with a forked tongue.


I find that our theories fit together. The one doesn't exclude the other.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a tradition that Demon Deus Inversus Est

The demon is the inverse of god.

Perhaps this means that the Source of All breathes out forming darkness from Spirit and breathes in bringing the dark Spirit back to Light

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Tsimtsum/id/195550

When I met the Tsimtsum it called itself The Revelation of the Word
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